Ask Author L Rea (March 2005)
by Author L Rea
http://www.anabolicbeast.com
Q1: What's your idea/experience on using a low dose of eq
and deca together say 300mg/EQ and 300mg/Deca?
IMHO they work fine together but I get the occasional argument
"they cancel each other out and compete for the same receptor
LOL!)
Thanks, and Best Regards from Shine.
A1: Only a few years ago many would have replied to this with
the silly answer of "…boldenone (EQ/Equipoise) and nandrolone
decanoate (deca) are the same in effect so why stack?"
Boldenone is similar to testosterone in anabolic action with
only about 50% the aromatization rate (conversion to estrogens).
It is only moderately androgenic yet provides a hardening effect
commonly realized due to the employment of highly androgenic
non-aromatizing AAS (Anabolic/Androgenic Steroids). Since
boldenone increases red blood cell production an increase in
vascularity is often reported as well as rapid recovery between
work-sets. This is great if the red blood cell count does not
reach a point of excess leading to blood clots. The result of
these qualities is a highly anabolic environment with low water
retention and few reported cases of gynecomastia (bitch tits).
Unfortunately boldenone is a veterinary drug only.
Nandrolone is a progestin of sorts (having progesterone-like
qualities) that aromatizes at about 20% the rate of testosterone.
Its aromatization product is a nor-estrogen having much less
estrogenic activity. It is more anabolic than testosterone and low
to moderately androgenic. The result of these qualities should be
a very high rate of protein synthesis (muscular growth), no female
pattern fat deposits or gynecomastia, with a dry and hard look to
the physique…but it doesn’t. (Huh?) Since it has progestin
qualities the drug is able to interact with progesterone receptors
and cause water retention and bitch tits. (But it gets worse)
Additionally the progesterone effect can have an inhibitory effect
upon libido (Looking semi-hard but not in a manner of speaking).
Several AAS users have reported a beneficial value to
co-administration of lower dosages of both boldenone and
nandrolone in comparison to high dosages of one or the other. This
is due to the resulting degree of negative potential side effect
cancellation: The androgenic value of boldenone seems to cancel
the anti-libido effect of nandrolone and the reduction in
necessary boldenone dosages decreases the excessive red blood cell
production concern. The reduction in progesterone-like activity
and reduced total circulating estrogens (from aromatization) also
reduces the chances of winning a wet T-shirt contest and a much
harder musculature.
My observations have always been that 1.5-2mg per pound of body
weight each of boldenone and nandrolone weekly resulted in fewer
negative side effects and better lean tissue accruement than 3-4mg
per pound of body weight weekly of either alone.
By the way, the idea of canceling each other out is an
oxymoron. AAS molecules do not cancel each other; they replace one
another in occupying the androgen receptors on/in muscle and other
cells. The period of time an AAS molecule remains in a given
androgen receptor (binding time) is determined by its
structure…not by what other molecules are around to piss it off.
Geez!
Q 2: One of the huge dude’s at the gym said that IL-15 will
make anyone a freak. Is it true?
A 2:
INTERLEUKIN -15 (IL-15)
This is one of the newer drugs appearing on the bodybuilding
scene that I would like to comment only briefly on. The human body
produces several growth factors that are mediators and
intermediates. In short this means they translate or
decrease/increase the effect of hormones and other growth factors.
A study published in the Journal of Endocrinology in 1995
showed IL-15 doubled the rate of hypertrophy in skeletal muscle
tissue. Interesting? Well the same study showed that stacking
IL-15 with IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor-1; the stuff GH is
converted into by the liver and other sites) increased muscular
hypertrophy (excessive development/growth) by 500%. How is that
for mediation?
I have known only a few athletes whom have utilized this stack,
and to be honest, I have always believed (and seen that) freaks
can be created even from those with below average genetics anyway.
Yes, the results were amazing. The down side of IL-15 use is that
lack of research. Some have speculated that IL-15 can trigger
cancer cell growth. However, available research has not shown a
connection between IL-15 and organ growth as of yet. I will not,
at this point, explain reported cycles or use. There is not enough
research as of yet concerning possible negative side effects.
However as more research becomes available, you can bet I will be
happy to share the reported results.
*A note of serious interest. There is also an Interleukin-6. DO
NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT! It is used by AIDS patients as an
immunocytochemical. This means it modulates an immune reaction to
infection. It creates an inflammatory reaction and very high
cortisol levels while suppressing IGF-1 and Androgen levels. So do
not chase AIDS victims around asking for some. They have enough
problems to deal with.
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